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Best agencies and companies for SharePoint opportunities?

Last post 06-19-2009, 12:02 AM by Cerievans. 12 replies.
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  •  05-15-2009, 6:23 PM 18916

    Best agencies and companies for SharePoint opportunities?

    In the last few days I've started networking with the aim of getting a contract using my SharePoint skills. I don't personally know that many SharePoint professionals so have contacted a few agencies. A couple seem to know their stuff but others give the impression that they rarely get asked to fill SharePoint positions. Can anyone please recommend good SharePoint agents/agencies for contract work, or indeed companies who I could approach directly?

    I have the MCTS: MOSS 2007 Configuration certification (which I hope will prove that I'm serious) coupled with many years of Microsoft development skills and network infrastructure knowledge. I'm just finishing a 4 month WSS 2.0 to 3.0 migration (freelance) project and now need something new to exercise my SharePoint skills.

    I haven't ruled out permanent roles.

    Thanks.

    Mike

  •  05-18-2009, 4:33 PM 18969 in reply to 18916

    Re: Best agencies and companies for SharePoint opportunities?

    Hi Mike,

    When I was ready to move on I was with several agencies, some of which just really weren't worth the effort. In the end Lee Stevens of Aardvark resourcing got me my consultant developer role.

    www.aardvarkresourcing.co.uk

    He also post jobs to the jobs section on here.

    Paul.


    www.myfatblog.co.uk
    twitter.com/@cimares
    MCTS: WSS 3.0
    MCTS: MOSS 2007
  •  05-19-2009, 4:34 PM 19021 in reply to 18916

    Re: Best agencies and companies for SharePoint opportunities?

    You're in a difficult place at the moment.

    On the main agencies, Pathway/Progressive, there's been a recent shift in the last 12 months when their SharePoint 'specialists' have all left.

    Square 1 has Chris Parsons, he's been around the block a bit so knows what's what.

    Glenn Norris, ex Pathway, seems to know his stuff and is now at www.x4group.co.uk but am not sure on how much he has on his books at the moment.

    Lee Stevens I've spoken to several times over the last few years, but never gone through so can't vouch.

    You can also try approaching companies like ICS Solutions (Alan Ridge) as they're always after good SharePoint people, but usually for short term contracts. They get a bad rap usually, but are great for getting loads of different experiences under your belt, and they always pay on time, in my experience.

    Let them know it was me who passed you on, in case they place you, because then I 'might' get an intro bottle of something from them... :o)

    Hope that helps
    Damian


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  •  05-20-2009, 9:13 AM 19029 in reply to 18916

    Re: Best agencies and companies for SharePoint opportunities?

    When I was looking the only 2x agencies who seem to know their stuff were Lee Stevens at Aardvark and Dean Cassell at Synergy I think they both advertise on here.

     

    Paul

  •  05-20-2009, 9:46 AM 19031 in reply to 19029

    Re: Best agencies and companies for SharePoint opportunities?

    Sorry yes, I should also second Dean Cassell, spoke with him many times of the last couple of years. Sorry about that! :o)
    Damian


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  •  05-20-2009, 10:50 AM 19034 in reply to 18916

    Re: Best agencies and companies for SharePoint opportunities?

    Anthony Halavatsis from Computer People is a good guy and seems to know more then your standard  recruiter. Tend to use him if im looking for a contract in the UK. Also Stephen Leary from Synergy was helpfull.

  •  05-20-2009, 12:34 PM 19036 in reply to 18916

    Re: Best agencies and companies for SharePoint opportunities?

    Glad to see that I have won a few friends on here ! Sadly, my knowledge is not apreciated as much by a lot of companies who have the work and stick to general agencies.

    As other posters have said, the contract market is very difficult at the moment mainly due to the fact that 1) so many people have gone contracting and 2) A very slow market

    That said, if you are sensible on your rate (and dont pay attention to rates advertised by those less knowledgable) there is always work.

    Email me your CV if you like and we can have a chat 


    Lee Stevens
    (e) lstevens@collabr8.net
    (w) www.collabr8.net
    (T) 07969 789188

  •  05-20-2009, 1:45 PM 19037 in reply to 18916

    Re: Best agencies and companies for SharePoint opportunities?

    Thanks for the endorsment Rich.

    On another note, Lee I understand your frustartions.

    I do make a lot of placements within the SharePoint market, but I do come across the same issue that Lee has mentioned quite often (probably not as much as I work for a large brand).

    There is nothing more frustarting then when you know a company is recruiting and the SharePoint position is dictated by HR. I know I can fill the role immediately but then HR won't go out of their prefered supply list of generalist suppliers. SharePoint positions just can't be worked properly unless you are a specialist recruiter. It takes them twice as long to find the candidate and they get twice the ammount of CV's from some recuiter straight out of Uni on 16k that can't tell the difference between a developer and a consultant/architect.  

    This is the main reason why I have not set up on my own yet!

    Regards

    Anthony Halvatzis 



    Anthony Halvatzis
    Senior Consultant

    Computer People
    2-4 Queensway, Crawley, West Sussex, RH10 1EJ.
    Telephone +44 (0) 1293 554207
    Fax +44 (0) 1293 554 225
    anthonyhalvatzis@computerpeople.co.uk
    www.computerpeople.co.uk
  •  05-20-2009, 1:47 PM 19038 in reply to 19036

    Re: Best agencies and companies for SharePoint opportunities?

    Thanks for the endorsment Rich.

    On another note, Lee I understand your frustartions.

    I do make a lot of placements within the SharePoint market, but I do come across the same issue that Lee has mentioned quite often (probably not as much as I work for a large brand).

    There is nothing more frustarting then when you know a company is recruiting and the SharePoint position is dictated by HR. I know I can fill the role immediately but then HR won't go out of their prefered supply list of generalist suppliers. SharePoint positions just can't be worked properly unless you are a specialist recruiter. It takes them twice as long to find the candidate and they get twice the ammount of CV's from some recuiter straight out of Uni on 16k that can't tell the difference between a developer and a consultant/architect.  

    This is the main reason why I have not set up on my own yet!

    Regards

    Anthony Halvatzis 

    Computer People, 01293 554207, anthonyhalvatzis@computerpeople.co.uk



    Anthony Halvatzis
    Senior Consultant

    Computer People
    2-4 Queensway, Crawley, West Sussex, RH10 1EJ.
    Telephone +44 (0) 1293 554207
    Fax +44 (0) 1293 554 225
    anthonyhalvatzis@computerpeople.co.uk
    www.computerpeople.co.uk
  •  05-20-2009, 4:30 PM 19051 in reply to 19038

    Re: Best agencies and companies for SharePoint opportunities?

    Hi Mike

    I've just noticed these post's... 

    I'd have to agree with Lee that the market is tight and we're fighting to get budget sign off on numerous projects - but it's not all doom and gloom! We still have several contracts which we're looking to fill immediately so drop me a line if I can be of any assistance.

    Best regards,

    Dean

    Synergy Recruitment

    +44 (0)1483 861172

    dcassell@synergyrecruitment.co.uk

    http://www.sharepointrecruitment.co.uk

  •  05-21-2009, 9:33 AM 19062 in reply to 19051

    Re: Best agencies and companies for SharePoint opportunities?

    This isn't directed at the recruiters above (I know a few of you quite well now) but honestly, I get several calls a day from so called "Specialist SharePoint Recruiters". It seems to me that focusing on SharePoint as a means to grab a share in a recruitment market is fair game and good on anyone who makes a few quid out of it, that's free enterprise and I for one applaud it. Though it does appear that everyone is a "specialist" now.

    However, focusing on SharePoint doesn't make you a SharePoint specialist, it makes you a niche market recruiter. If you had actual SharePoint knowledge and by that I mean understanding the product to a deep level rather than repeating buzz words or acronyms that you don't understand, that would be a different matter.

    Having the opportunity to work both sides, being recruited and doing the recruiting for SharePoint roles, I can fully understand many companies positions to not go outside the Preferred Supplier Lists. (for those who don't know me, I'm a SharePoint Architect, not a recruiter). There are many reasons, and most of you know them but one of the most common reasons is due to the very nature of the recruitment practices employed. If you've ever worked in or near HR when the 100's of recruiters call each and every day to pester them to take a client, you could understand why they need a blanket response - they simply don't have the time to deal with every man and his dog who says they have the best candidate for them. Aside from that, they get good rates with the companies on the PSL and the agreements are often exclusive or restrictive, so they can't deal with new agencies anyway. I'm not knocking the recruitment industry, far from it, it works very well for me but the reason it works so well is also the reason it doesn't work so well if you get my meaning?

    I'm finding the SharePoint market is on fire for anyone with actual solid knowledge of the product and who has been through several implementations but for newcommers it is hard to break into (Sorry Mike G). Many companies are coming to realise (to their cost) that they can't just throw in a .Net developer in anymore, they need actual SharePoint practical knowledge coupled with good business skills. If you're a developer who wants to get into SharePoint, you may need to drop your rates to get the experience first and build from there.

    The SharePoint "dot com" has come and gone, its a much more mature market nowadays with some very strong candidates out here earning good money but they have to work hard to keep up to date. It's also starting to fragment where I see the marketplace starting to ask for specific SharePoint skills such as Taxonomy, LOB Integration, Design Skills, etc. This tells us that the market has realised that SharePoint is in fact a suite of skills that one person alone can not hope to be a master of all.

    So, to the original question - who is best? Well, no one really. As the recruiters above point out, they all get handed different opportunities and each of them have different routes to the market. Personally I deal with several that I have come to trust, the ones who don't try to kid me about their level of knowledge, the ones who are frank and honest about whats available and what they have to offer. I have a list of companies I would never deal with and a list that I will. This has come about through my personal experience with the agencies and staff involved, over time. As a general rule, most HR depts throw Microsoft roles to their designated Microsoft recruiters, so that should help narrow down your search a bit.

    I think your approach of networking is a very good start and should stand you in good stead for the future as will your infrastructure skills. There are a lot of perm roles out there too. Good luck with your search and all the best.

     

     

     


    Paul Leigh
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    Software Architect and a QuikR Microlight pilot in my spare time.
  •  05-26-2009, 2:23 PM 19124 in reply to 19062

    Re: Best agencies and companies for SharePoint opportunities?

    Hi Mike,

    I have worked with Eoin mcdonagh for my sharepoint positions over the last few years, he has great knowledge about the UK market and really nice guy. He is at Ikas International now, let me know if you want his details.

    ta

  •  06-19-2009, 12:02 AM 19488 in reply to 18916

    Re: Best agencies and companies for SharePoint opportunities?

    Hello Mike,

     

    My name is Ceri Evans and I USED to be a SharePoint Recruiter.  I worked in that market for two years and found that a great number of the opportunities came through the Gold Partner Network.

    My current situation is that I'm actually trying to get another job working in the same market and so would be interested in staying in touch.

    One good way to check out recruiters profiles and potentially who they know is through www.linkedin.com (my profile link is on my bio).

    The main requirement I had for Sharepoint people was for client facing consultants who were mobile and able to deal with non-techncial staff. I know a little about the market at present and would suggest allying with a more senior Architect to bolster your complete understanding of all the functional aspects of SharePoint.

    While your MCTS is a useful qualification to have it would be best for you to get as much practical expereince as possible. Depending on location a good consultant can earn up to £500 per day and perm salaries range from between 40 - 70K.

    I hope this helps and should I get a job soon (final interviews next week) I would be very happy to talk to you over the phone or in person.

    Please feel free to message me in the meantime.

     

     

     

     


    Ceri Evans

    Linkedin profile - http://www.linkedin.com/pub/4/782/858
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